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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffNoiseCollector Date: Nov 4, 2011 10:59am
Forum: occupywallstreet Subject: Re: Tools for getting to the truth in all this confusion

I was strictly commenting on the statistical effect in unemployment reporting if troops (and contractors for that matter) suddenly enter the workforce. I think we should have been finished the day Sodom was pulled out of the hole....

If it were up to me I'd pull out of europe and let them add military expenditures into their failing social experiment...

I'd pull out of the middle east and let them cannibalize each other...

I'd put our troops on the border and legalize weed, destroying the cartels and illegal traffic in one fell swoop but that would make too much sense. I'd put prisoners, perpetual welfare recipients, and robots in the fields to pick the vegetables.... now unemployment goes down, illegal immigration goes down, drug violence goes down, tax revenues go up.... this make sense to anyone else?

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Poster: dead-head_Monte Date: Nov 4, 2011 12:26pm
Forum: occupywallstreet Subject: Re: Tools for getting to the truth in all this confusion

Re: the statistical effect in unemployment reporting if troops (and contractors for that matter) suddenly enter the workforce [at home in the USA].
100s of thousands of our troops (and some contractors for that matter) require short-term care and long-term care.
U.S. troops and Iraq vets, traumatic brain injury statistics - Googled for you

U.S. troops and Iraq vets, amputee statistics - Googled for you

U.S. troops and Iraq vets, disfigurement statistics - Googled for you

U.S. troops and Iraq vets, post traumatic stress disorder statistics - Googled for you
We need workers to upgrade older care centers for our Veterans. Our Veterans need plenty of doctors, nurses, therapists, and specialists. We will need new care centers and rehabilitation centers.

How many jobs is that?


This post was modified by dead-head_Monte on 2011-11-04 19:26:12

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffNoiseCollector Date: Nov 4, 2011 12:56pm
Forum: occupywallstreet Subject: Re: Devils advocate

My concern was the 40,000 troops (ignoring civilians) returning and competing for the small amount of jobs already being fought over (well by those that haven't given up or are just happy with UE bennies).

Of the approximate 30k in non lethal casualties, 20% have serious brain or spine injuries so that puts 6,000 severely wounded that need ongoing care (most of which are already home in treatment). These people are already in VA hospitals and being treated so their impact is not what I was getting at.

Trust me, I am no longer a supporter of the Iraq war, but along with both houses of congress and almost everyone on board in the beginning, the war happened whether we like it or not.

http://www.archive.org/details/Iraq_song

Sorry for the yellow and white letters in the video... not sure what the hell I was thinking... but you can see what people were thinking when we went in... and it wasn't just bush.


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Poster: dead-head_Monte Date: Nov 5, 2011 7:57am
Forum: occupywallstreet Subject: Re: Devils advocate - good journalism requires more sources

Your source is in dispute. It comes from a PDF file put by the U.S. DoD --
Your numbers are INCOMPLETE! They fall well short of the actual casualty statistics reported.
http://www.defense.gov/news/casualty.pdf
31,921 U.S. Troops wounded in action - OPERATION IRAQI FREEDOM (OIF) U.S. CASUALTY STATUS
Do you dispute any of the sources below? They exist. Please explain your dispute(s). Thank you.

• Traumatic Brain Injury (TBI) has become the signature injury of the current wars in Iraq & Afghanistan
https://www.braintrauma.org/tbi-faqs/military-tbi/
Based on existing data, veterans’ advocates believe that between 10% and 20% of Iraq veterans, or 150,000 and 300,000 people, have some level of TBI. Among wounded troops, the rate of TBI rises to 33%. Undiagnosed and untreated TBI has become a significant problem for service men and women serving in Iraq.

https://www.braintrauma.org/tbi-faqs/tbi-statistics/
Exposures to blasts are a leading cause of TBI among active duty military personnel in war zones.

30% of soldiers admitted to Walter Reed Army Medical Center have been diagnosed as having had a TBI.

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1580531,00.html
Limb-loss has occurred twice as often in Iraq as in any conflict of the past century, except for Vietnam, for which there are no good statistics. The 500 major amputations — toes and fingers aren't counted — represent 2.2% of the 22,700 U.S. troops wounded in action. But the number rises to 5% in the category of soldiers whose wounds prevent them returning to duty.

http://www.apa.org/about/gr/issues/military/white-paper.pdf
Thousands of returning military personnel are struggling with PTSD, depression, substance abuse, social withdrawal, and unemployment. This is especially true for the seriously medically injured (including amputees, burn victims, traumatic brain injured, and those with sensory loss or disfigurement.) As the numbers increase, there is a critical need to meet the mental and behavioral health service demand.
Journalism sourcing - as defined by Wikipedia
"In journalism, a source is a person, publication, or other record or document that gives information. Outside journalism, sources are sometimes known as "news sources". Examples of sources include official records, publications or broadcasts, officials in government or business, organizations or corporations, witnesses of crime, accidents or other events, and people involved with or affected by a news event or issue.

There are a multitude of factors that tend to condition the acceptance of sources as bona fide by investigative journalists. As a rule of thumb, but especially when reporting on controversy, reporters are expected to use multiple sources."

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffNoiseCollector Date: Nov 7, 2011 8:45am
Forum: occupywallstreet Subject: Re: Devils advocate - good journalism requires more sources

I don't dispute anything and im not a journalist.... lol

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Poster: toad licker Date: Nov 4, 2011 11:49am
Forum: occupywallstreet Subject: Re: Tools for getting to the truth in all this confusion

Homeland Security could use some of the troup's for crowd control when or if most entitlements get cut off.

Will the ows allow toad licking?

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Poster: toad licker Date: Nov 4, 2011 11:40am
Forum: occupywallstreet Subject: Re: Tools for getting to the truth in all this confusion

if you legalize toad licking, I'm in!

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffNoiseCollector Date: Nov 7, 2011 8:44am
Forum: occupywallstreet Subject: Re: Tools for getting to the truth in all this confusion

As long as you stand for the traditional toad licking family.

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Poster: rdenirojb87 Date: Nov 4, 2011 11:47am
Forum: occupywallstreet Subject: Re: Tools for getting to the truth in all this confusion

"I'd put our troops on the border and legalize weed, destroying the cartels and illegal traffic in one fell swoop"

i like your ideas, however you greatly underestimate the power wielded by the cartel if you think that would destroy them in one fell swoop. marijuana makes up roughly 60% of their business. however, they would simply lower the prices on hard drugs they import, and introduce other illegal operations to replace the loss of the marijuana profits. in little time they would be raking in as much money as they are now.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffNoiseCollector Date: Nov 7, 2011 8:46am
Forum: occupywallstreet Subject: Re: Tools for getting to the truth in all this confusion

A few well placed tactical strikes on the coca processing centers then....

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffNoiseCollector Date: Nov 7, 2011 8:52am
Forum: occupywallstreet Subject: Re: Tools for getting to the truth in all this confusion

After I go in and do some clippings.... I heard growing from seed is about impossible...